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Friday, 26 December 2008

Bally's Roulette Machines

Bally's Roulette MachineIn the USA especially, the Bally's Roulette machines seem to be a popular addition to many casino slot machine inventories. I call this a "slot machine" rather than a "table game" simply because it looks more like a slot machine than a table, and it appears to have payoffs similar to slot machines. Ugh. Of course, this is just my personal opinion - you should make up your own mind.

According to friends in the US who've played the game first hand, and also from what I've ascertained online, Bally's Roulette is available in denominations from a low of one penny to a high of $100. That's cool - because it allows a wide range of players / bankrolls to play. But the pay table is not cool. There are various configurations available to the casino operators, but potentially a casino could put a Bally's Roulette version on the gaming floor that pays just 32-for-1 on single-number bets, instead of the usual 35-to-1.

There's a difference between "for-1" and "to-1" payoffs. A "for-1" payoff includes the return of your wager. A "to-1" payoff gives you the advertised odds, plus your wager back. So a payout of 32-for-1 is the same as 31-to-1. Both give you 32 chips.

The usual odds for roulette pay 36-for-1 (35-to-1) on a winning single number bet. So at 32-for-1, your return is four credits shy of what you should get. This has a HUGE impact on the house edge. On a normal single zero roulette game, the house has an edge of about 2.63%. With the Bally's Roulette "short pay" of 31-to-1, the edge becomes over 13%!!! That's TERRIBLE. That payout level is equivalent to a typical penny slot machine!

If you're playing pennies you might not notice things so much - but at the higher denominations, you'd better hang on to your bankroll! Ouch! It would seem much better (to me) to play the table roulette version, than to play these types of roulette machines... just my personal thoughts. Have you played these roulette machines before? Have thoughts / comments? Feel free to leave a comment on the blog - or email me at davewestlondon@yahoo.co.uk.

PS: Bally's Roulette Machines are (C) Bally Technologies Inc. My image of the roulette machine was found at www.ballytech.com. Note that other gaming companies also produce gaming machines that have similar payout structures etc - I'm not attempting to single out Bally here as the only manufacturer of these types of games.

5 comments:

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craig said...

Hard Rock in Hollywood Fl pay 32 for 1 at .25, 34 at $1.00 and 36 at $5.00 or more. played the machines for years, anyone notice how they repeat to same area on a regular basis, example play following numbers, start with.25 until you get the hang of it, play following 14 numbers, 7 are on one side of wheel, 35,3,26,0,15,32,19, other side are 5,33,16,20,1,14,24, watch how many times the number will hit in a row, usually 2 or 3 but have seen up to 9 times in a row numerous times,OF course the ydon't hit every time and I realize your are covering 14 out of 37, but for years these combos hit, not normal if wheel is random. Now this is only on single zero Bally's video slot machines, Coconut Creek and HArd Rock, only place I played them. Killed them for years, was a bummer you dan't get points, use to have Elite card ate and drank free for years.

craig said...

craig said...
Hard Rock in Hollywood Fl pay 32 for 1 at .25, 34 at $1.00 and 36 at $5.00 or more. played the machines for years, anyone notice how they repeat to same area on a regular basis, example play following numbers, start with.25 until you get the hang of it, play following 14 numbers, 7 are on one side of wheel, 35,3,26,0,15,32,19, other side are 5,33,16,20,1,14,24, watch how many times the number will hit in a row, usually 2 or 3 but have seen up to 9 times in a row numerous times,OF course the ydon't hit every time and I realize your are covering 14 out of 37, but for years these combos hit, not normal if wheel is random. Now this is only on single zero Bally's video slot machines, Coconut Creek and HArd Rock, only place I played them. Killed them for years, was a bummer you dan't get points, use to have Elite card ate and drank free for years.

Ruth Mendez said...

You have a point there! Bally's Roulette is more of a "slot machine" than a table game.

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xworkerbee said...

From my extensive experience playing these Bally Roulette machines in California Indian Casinos, it is clear they are slot machines. Slot machines are controlled by a RNG chip that determines when someone wins and loses, thus guaranteeing the casino a win percentage. Although it appears on its face that this is true roulette, a random game determined by the spin of a wheel and the drop of a ball, instead it's obvious this is nothing more than a similar RNG scam where the game produces a win or loss against the players wagers. In a sense it is a kind of a fraud against the player who reasonably assumes that wagers made have a fair chance of winning in a random game. It definitely is not a random game and I would recommend steering clear of this type of game and play the real thing. At least you will have a fighting chance.

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